filioque

[doctor_faustus]

În prealabil postat de Mihnea Dragomir

Deosebirea (mare de tot !) este că noi recunoaştem falsurile noastre drept ceea ce sunt: falsuri. Pe când ortodocşii nu recunosc falsurile grosolane la care s-au dedat de-a lungul secolelor, ba chiar la cel mai înalt nivel. Şi cine ar putea vorbi mai în temă despre falsurile ortodoxe în materie de Filioque decât principala porta-voce a ortodocşilor la Conciliul de la Ferrara-Florenţa ? Să îl ascultăm pe Preasfinţitul Visarion şi să-i citim stupefacţia printre rânduri:

Firstly five exemplars, then six, were found in this Council. Four were
written on parchment and very ancient, two others on silk. From the two writings
on silk, one was the property of our powerful Emperor, the other of the sacred
Patriarch. Five of these six exemplars had the text as I quoted it, that is,
they were affirming that the Holy Spirit takes His being from the Son, and that
He depends on this same cause, that is, on the Son. But one only, the copy of
the Patriarch, was different: someone had cut off the text and had afterwards
added and retrenched certain things. Later, after the Council, after it was
suggested to me that I should examine almost all the books of these monasteries,
I found that in the most recent ones, that is, in those that were written after
this great quarrel [dupa schisma, nota mea], the passage was cut out .
By contrary, all those that were by a more ancient hand, and that were composed
before the quarrel of the Greeks between them, all those ones have remained
healthy and complete and they are, however, in the same great number as the
corrupted texts... Meanwhile, I have found among other books, in the monastery
of Christ-Saviour in Pantepoptos, two copies of Saint Basil, one, on a very
ancient parchment, judging by the sight..., the other, on paper, that was dated
at least three hundred years old, for the date was written at the end. These
two copies have the passage of Saint Basil ; only these audacious men, and
by an even more audacious hand, have cut out the passage. But the place has
remained empty and half of the syllables subsists, which does not but betray the
trickery and show forth even better the truth. In another book, an erasure
was put on the phrase: "receiving being from Him and depending in a unique way
on Him as on His cause."
(sursa: PG 161, 319 şi urm)

Să ne mai mirăm că Visarion a rămas fidel Unirii până la sfârşitul vieţii, refugiindu-se de asemenea plastografi în veşminte albe ? Aşa cum a rămas şi împăratul Constantin, care a murit pe zidurile cetăţii cu sabia în mână ? Aşa cum a rămas şi mitropolitul Damian al Moldovei, care a murit catolic ?

Domnule, nu înţeleg ce ne tot vii cu sinodul de la Ferrara-Florenţa ? Ţi-am adus argumente de la sfântul Chiril al Alexandriei că el nu avea nici un filioque în teologia lui. Puteţi să răstălmăciţi cât vreţi citate cine ştie cât de false/adevărate, însă eu v-am adus citate din traducerea părintelui Stăniloae, citate care nu vorbesc despre nici un filioque.