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deci papa vinde niste chestii care vor folosi nu acum, ci dupa moarte. |
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Daca inlocuiti "papa vinde" cu "Biserica ofera in baza puterii cheilor" si reformulati "vor folosi fie dupa moarte, fie in viata aceasta", atunci ajungeti la o fraza corecta din punct de vedere catolic.
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Ba nu ai înțeles deloc. Papa nu vinde nimic.
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ba da, vinde.
cat timp ia bani (nu conteaza pe ce), e clar, vinde. |
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Surse, deocamdata neoficiale (dar cuprinzand corespondenti de presa la Roma) dau ca sigura retragerea iminenta a Sanctitatii Sale. Un comunicat este asteptat in cursul zilei de azi.
O asemenea retragere, daca va avea loc, nu s-a mai petrecut de cinci secole.
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Discutii, teorii, cateva luni presa de scandal va avea paine. :)) Asteptam deja anunturile de pe blogurile ortodoxiste cum ca Papa si-a dat demsiia pentru a face loc mai repede antihistului care se stie ca urma sa vina abia dupa moartea lui.
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Intre timp, avem si un document oficial: cuvantarea Sf Parinte in fata Consistoriului (=adunarea cardinalilor). Aflam ca:
-Sf Parinte doreste ca retragerea sa aiba loc in mod concret la sfarsitul lunii curente. -Motivul invocat este slabiciunea trupului si a mintii. Sursa: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21411304
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Textul cuvantarii, tradus in engleza:
Dear Brothers, I have convoked you to this Consistory, not only for the three canonisations, but also to communicate to you a decision of great importance for the life of the Church. After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry. I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only with words and deeds, but no less with prayer and suffering. However, in today’s world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to govern the bark of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognise my incapacity to adequately fulfil the ministry entrusted to me. For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter, entrusted to me by the Cardinals on 19 April 2005, in such a way, that as from 28 February 2013, at 20:00 hours, the See of Rome, the See of Saint Peter, will be vacant and a Conclave to elect the new Supreme Pontiff will have to be convoked by those whose competence it is. Dear Brothers, I thank you most sincerely for all the love and work with which you have supported me in my ministry and I ask pardon for all my defects. And now, let us entrust the Holy Church to the care of Our Supreme Pastor, Our Lord Jesus Christ, and implore his holy Mother Mary, so that she may assist the Cardinal Fathers with her maternal solicitude, in electing a new Supreme Pontiff. With regard to myself, I wish to also devotedly serve the Holy Church of God in the future through a life dedicated to prayer. From the Vatican, 10 February 2013 Sa observam ca nu e vorba de o "cerere de demisie" care sa astepte aprobarea cardinalilor, ci Sf Parinte ne pune in fata unei hotarari irevocabile de a se retrage. Kyrie eleison!
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Dar de cati ani este Papa Sanctitatea Sa? |
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