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În prealabil postat de Mihnea Dragomir

Melkitii sunt greco-catolici.

Nu fa greseala sa ii consideri asa.
Zoghby in Tous Schismatique, a considerat prin acordurile prin care s-au infiintat majoritatea Bisericile Unite o greseala, si scaunele ortodoxe adevaratele mostenitoare ale crestinismului rasaritean local.

În prealabil postat de Mihnea Dragomir

Tot asa crede si Biserica Romana Unita. Fiecare fraza este corecta din punct de vedere catolic. Adica e... ortodoxa.

Nici pe departe.
Din punct de vedere catolic, "limitele impuse " inseamna practic, cam nici o limita.
Dar melkitii isi apara cu stasnicie drepturile, chiar si in forma limitata a Florentei, drept pentru care au intrat si in belele cu Vaticanul in unele momente, pentru ca au refuzat sa acepte nazurile Romei.

Patriarch Gregory refused to sign the Council's dogmatic declaration on papal infallibility. He and the seven other Melkite bishops present voted non placet at the general congregation and left Rome prior to the adoption of the dogmatic constitution Pastor Aeternus on papal infallibility.[23] Other members of the anti-infallibilist minority, both from the Latin church and from other Eastern Catholic churches, also left the city.[23]

After the First Vatican Council concluded an emissary of the Roman Curia was dispatched to secure the signatures of the patriarch and the Melkite delegation. Patriarch Gregory and the Melkite bishops subscribed to it, but with the qualifying clause of the used at the Council of Florence attached: "except the rights and privileges of Eastern patriarchs.".[21][24] He earned the enmity of Pius IX for this; during his next visit to the pontiff Gregory was cast to the floor at Pius' feet by the papal guard while the pope placed his foot on the patriarch's head.

Ouch, cum ar spune englezii.
Dar nu este singura figura pe care au facut-o melkitii in sinoadele catolice.

At Session I of the Council(Vatican I), Maximos's€™ electrifying opening speech on October 23, 1962, set the tone for the Melkite onslaught on the one-sided, Latin vision of the Church. He refused to speak in Latin, the language of the Latin Church, but not, he insisted, of the Catholic Church nor of his. He refused to follow protocol and address "œTheir Eminences", the cardinals, before "€œTheir Beatitudes",€ the Eastern patriarchs, for in his ecclesiology patriarchs, the heads of local Churches, did not take second place to cardinals, who were but second-rank dignitaries of one such communion, the Latin Church. He also urged the West to allow the vernacular in the liturgy, following the lead of the East, "where every language is, in effect, liturgical€". And he concluded, in true Eastern fashion, that the matter at any rate should be left to the local Churches to decide. All this in his first intervention at the first session! No wonder numerous Council Fathers, overcoming their initial surprise, hastened to congratulate him for his speech. And no wonder it hit the news. That was a language even journalists impervious to the torturous periods of "€œclericalese" could understand. Maximos spoke simply, clearly, directly-”and he spoke in French.