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Pai nu stiu daca cineva ii intelege vre-odata, banuiesc ca se urasc si pe ei insisi, nu stiu.

Dar uite tocami vorbeam cu Millisauti ca e in Singapore acuma, si acolo sint musulmani, hindusi etc, insa e legea cu pedeapsa capitala, si asa fac pace, sint linistiti, deci nu ataca, stau in banca lor.

Acuma eu ma intreb: oare aceasta religie, poate fii pusa la punct doar cu pedeaspa capitala?
Asta sa fie solutia?

Pai daca Ku-Ran ii invata ca tot ce e de alta relgie trebuie sa moara...atunci, eu ce sa mai zic?
Sigur ca da, ei asa stiu, asa fac....sau poate eu nu inteleg...
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Sambata, politia a reusit sa ucida 3 dintre rebeli, apartinatori ai grupului musulman.
Eugenio este inca in captivitate.

Au abandonat unul dintre ostateci, dar acela nu este Eugenio.

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/s...ee-rebels.html
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Doamne ajuta, ca milostiv esti! Sa dea Dumnezeu sa scape cu bine si sa se intoarca acasa la familie si copil.
Te asteptam cu o veste buna
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Draga Nina ,
Este imposibil ca rugaciunile voastre sa nu fi fost auzite de bunul Dumnezeu.
Dovada ca traieste .
Rugati-va in continuare Maicii Domnului care are multa putere de a ajuta.
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Astept vestea cea buna Nina .Domnul nu l-a parasit pana acum, nu-l va lasa nici de acum incolo. Doamne indura-Te ,iarta si salvceaza-i.
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Italian Hostage beheaded by bandits in RP?

2009 June 17

tags: italian hostage in rp, eugenio vagni, italian beheaded in jolo, abu sayyaf group, asg, terrorism in philippines, international red cross
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Eugenio Vagni killed by ASG?

Was Eugenio Vagni, the last remaining Red Cross volunteer kidnapped by the Abu Sayyaf in Jolo executed last June 13? There are persistent reports that Albader Parad, an ASG sub-commander, reportedly beheaded Vagni, a few hours after a bloody encounter with the military which resulted to the death of one of Dr. Abu’s son. Parad’s wife and brother were also killed.
The 53 year old Italian Vagni was reportedly buried in a shallow grave somewhere in Indanan Sulu. The last time that Vagni was reported alive was on June 2, the day he last called his wife.
A member of the Bangsamoro Civil Society said that Vagni’s death could be true since attacks from the military have intensified. Probably, that led to the ASG surmising that government is not concerned with the safety of Vagni anymore.
Vagni has been held hostage for more than six months already. Talks have bogged down between government emisaries and the ASG.
The last encounter between the ASG and the military resulted to the death of seven Marines and about 15 suspected ASG members.




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Se presupune ca Eugenio a fost decapitat pe Junie 17, insa nu sint siguri.
ca urmare a unui atac militar sangeros, se pare totusi ca au gasit corpul sau....
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Sulu gov makes it clear: No ransom for Vagni

06/26/2009 | 09:43 AM

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MANILA, Philippines - No ransom.

On this note, Sulu Governor Abdusakur Tan put his foot down Friday on the reported demand of the Abu Sayyaf for ransom in exchange for the release of Red Cross worker Eugenio Vagni.

"Tayo, di natin pinaguusapan ang ransom. Wala tayong bibigyang ransom... Kung ransom ang paguusapan walang katapusan ang problema natin, kaya di tayo magbibigay kahit singko [We are not talking ransom here. And we will not give ransom, lest it perpetuate our problem. We will not give them even a fraction of a centavo]," Tan said in an interview on dzXL radio.

As Sulu governor, Tan heads the local crisis committee addressing the problem.

He warned the Abu Sayyaf they face bigger problems if they kill Vagni.

"Konsensya nila yan kung papatayin nila, depende sa kanila yan ... Kung papatayin nila, lalaki ang kanilang kaso [It will be on their conscience. If they kill Vagni, they face bigger problems]," he said.

On Thursday, Philippine National Red Cross chairman Sen. Richard Gordon cited information reaching him indicating the Abu Sayyaf wants ransom for Vagni.

The Abu Sayyaf abducted Vagni and fellow Red Cross workers Mary Jean Lacaba and Andreas Notter in Sulu last Jan. 15. They released Lacaba April 2, and Notter April 18.

For his part, Philippine Navy spokesman Lt. Col. Edgard Arevalo said that while they are open to “talks" for Vagni’s release, the military is not keen on suspending its operations.

"Kung magkakaroon ng pagusap para siya ay mapalaya tayo sumasangayon na mabigyang daan without having to sinasabing go back to square one [If there will be talks, we are open to giving concessions but not to the point of going back to square one]," he said in a separate
interview on dzXL.

He said that even if negotiations will be conducted, military operations such as intelligence gathering should continue and the military should not be made to back out of their present positions.

On Thursday, Arevalo said the military was opposed to any ransom payment in exchange for the release of Vagni. - GMANews.TV


http://www.gmanews.tv/story/165901/S...nsom-for-Vagni


Ransom

Ransom is the practice of holding a prisoner to extort money or property to secure their release, or it can refer to the sum of money involved.

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Un alt rapot insa, spune ca guvernul local cere inca pe Eugenio de la rapitori, insa nu vor plati absolut nimic arabilor, nici macar un cent pentru rapire.

Ransom= rapirea unei persoane si extoarcere de bani in schimbul relasarii persoanei respective.
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