Erori dogmatice in Biserica Ortodoxa Romana "Sf.Treime"din Los Angeles

daca esti convins ca ai citit bine, desi zic si eu ca Florina ca nu stiu unde exact ai gasit tu pasajele acelea, de ce nu ii spui parintelui Constantin Alecse despre ceea ce ai gasit tu in neregula pe site-ul pe care il patroneaza... biserica.org e doar unul dintre ele, uite aici ce activitate bogata are pe net, si cred ca iti dai si tu seama ca atatea site-uri nu pot fi efectiv scrise/ mentinute de o singura persoana:

[COLOR=maroon]Biserica.org – „Orthodox Spirituality” – Romanian Portal[/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]Acatistier.org - Acatistierul - 31 Acatistos Services and 2 Paraclisos Services, at the major Feast-days, and special Saints throughout the year.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]Colinde.org - Christmas Carols, in Romanian & English, Christmas customs, etc. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]Duhovnici.org - Great Confessors of the Romanian Orthodox Church - giving the lives (in short) and the writings of some Great Confessors of the Romanian Orthodox Church (including 2 on the American continent. Archimandrites Roman Braga and Felix Dubneac), such as: Archimandrite Teofil (Pãrãian), from Mrea Sâmbãta, V.Rev.Father Ioan (Iovan), from Mãnãstirea Recea, V.Rev.Father Arsenie (Papacioc), from Techirghiol, V.Rev.Father Sofian (Boghiu), from Mãnãstirea Antim [/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]Liturghie.org - On this page you can listen to the Divine Liturgy, as well as other services (matins, vespers, Christmas Carols) in Romanian. While listening to these services you can follow slideshows with thousands of images from Romania, The Holy Land, The Vatican, as well as beautiful icons.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]Liturghier.org - The Divine Liturgy - The page contains the Holy Liturgy of St. John Chrysostomos, with the Preparatory Prayers, Vesting and Proskomedeia Prayers. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]Manastiri.org - The Romanian Monasteries. Links to the most famous Romanian Monasteries (geographically arranged)[/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]OrthodoxAmerica.net - Orthodox America – A trimester Theological Magazine, published by the ROEA Missions Department, with a sponshorship from ARFORA. Pastoral, spiritual, cultural and administrative life in the parishes and missions of the ROEA. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]OrthodoxCatechism.org - A summary of the Holy Orthodox Faith: religion and Christianity, Holy Trinity, God, Creation, Salvation, Incarnation of Christ, Divine and Human Nature of Christ, the Orthodox Holy Sacraments: Baptism, Wedding, Funeral, Death, Resurrection, Priesthood, Matrimony, Confession, Eucharist, Liturgy, Blessing, etc [/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]([/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]ALL ENGLISH[/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]).[/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]OrthodoxChurches.net – Web page of Orthodox Churches: Patriarchates, Archdioceses, Dioceses, Monasteries and other Orthodox Institutions Worldwide. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]OrthodoxNet.org – The official web-site of the Building Project of the Holy Trinity Romanian Orthodox Church in Los Angeles, California.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]OrthodoxPrayers.org - The Priest's Book of Orthodox Services and Prayers: Great Vespers, Daily prayers, Orthodox prayers, Sunday Prayers, Vespers, Compline, Pascha, Easter, Matins, Katavasias, Theotokos, Saints, Alleluia, Communion, Triodion, Penticostarion, Prokeimena, Calendar, Proskomedeia, Proskomede, Divine Liturgy, John Chrysostom, Basil the Great, Pre-sanctified Liturgy, Before meal, after meal, evening prayers, confession, and many other individual daily readings and prayers [/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]([/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]ALL ENGLISH[/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]).[/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]PasteOrtodox.org – Articles for Holy Pascha, Religios Easter Hymns (mp3 format): The wooden-log and drums, Monastery Bells, Palm Sunday Matins, The Lamentation Services, The Resurrection Service, The Praises Stichiras, I Love You Lord (hymn), The Doxologia, Christ is Risen troparion, images, etc. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]Psaltirea.org - The Psalter - Prophet David`s 150 psalms (Romanian). [/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]Publicatii.com -[/COLOR][COLOR=#993300] "The Christian Life" - [/COLOR][COLOR=#993300]The bi-lingual theological magazine “Christian Life”, published quarterly by the Holy Trinity Romanian Orthodox Church in Los Angeles, CA, exposes the spiritual, pastoral, cultural and missionary life, as well as the administration activities of the Holy Trinity Church and its Chapel. The magazine focuses on theological studies, sermons, spiritual reflections, parish news, administration activities reports, time of services, regular and occasional church services, etc. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=maroon]RomanianBible.org – The Bible (in Romanian) with a Search Engine, and the New Testament both: text and audio. The project was accomplished by Fr. Constantin Alecse with the Blessings from His Eminence Archbishop Nathaniel of the ROEA. A real tool in making any kind of bible search by the lay people and theologians, priests and students.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]Rugaciuni.org - "Prayers" (in Romanian) posted with the Blessings from Archbishop Nathaniel. Among the prayers: The Morning Evening and Meal prayers, The Daily Prayers (for every day of the week specifically), the troparion, the panaghias, then the Services of the Hours and mid-Hours: First, Third, Sixth, Ninth, Vespers, Matins, The Kontakias, Prayers of Sts. John Chrysostomos & Basil the Great, Canons, The Prayers before and after the Holy Communion.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]SfantaTreime.org – The official page of the Holy Trinity Romanian Orthodox Church in Los Angeles, California. News, views and general information about the parish. Theological and cultural articles, Church and civic institutions in Romania and USA.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]TeologiRomani.org – The Dictionary of Romanian Theologians (all Romanian) – The entire book “Dictionarul Teologilor Romani” of prof. Dr. Mircea Pacuraru, over 720 great personalities, "from Daciens’ time up to present" – according to the book’s author. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]TheWhosWho.net – The great personalities of the Romanian Orthodox Theology (in Romania and abroad): Diocesan Hierarchs, Great Confessors, University Professors, etc. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]ViataCrestina.com - The Virtual Library (Romanian & English). Orthodox Services with SlideShows, Carols, Liturgy, Bible, Acatistos Services, Prayers, Spirituality, Catechism, Church History, Apologetics, Sermons, Links… [/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]ViataCrestina.net - The Pacific Coast Deanery (ROEA) web-page.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=maroon]Vietilesfintilor.org - Synaxis of All Saints = This web-page links to more than 1,000 Lives of Saints of the Orthodox Church[/COLOR]

...asa ca nu mai sta pe ganduri si scrie-i pr. Constantin Alecse la preot@biserica.org

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Si eu cred ca trebuie anuntat administratorul site-ului.In legatura cu pogorarea Mantuitorului la iad,o rugaciune pe care o rosteste preotul in altar cand cadeste zice:"in mormant cu trupul,in iad cu sufletul,ca un Dumnezeu in rai cu talharul,pe scaun impreuna cu Tatal si cu Duhul ai fost Hristoase,pe toate umplandu-le, cel ce esti necuprins".Am inteles,ca multi credinciosi sunt americani si posibil ca acestia sa se fi convertit de la protestanti,care sustin acele erezii.

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In occident am intalnit aceasi situatii: protestanti si catolici convertitila ortodoxie. Ei nu numai ca nu se lapada de eresurile lor, ci si incearca sa le impuna, ca un punct de vedere, iar daca nu sunt acceptati, se intorc iarasi la confesiunea lor. Din acest motiv, cred, unii preoti au facut exceptii, ceea ce prea este indicat. De pilda, botezul prin stropire. Acest lucru nu poate fi o motivatzie, mai ales ca nu-i prigoneste nimeni, nu sunt batuti, nu sunt persecutati. Persecutia preotilor ortodocsi din occident este alta, adica persecutia modernizarii, comoditatii, etc, etc. De aceea in alte state este un total dezinteres fatza de ortodoxie, chiar si din randul preotilor.

e vorba de biserica romaneasca. eu n-am vazut/ auzit de occidentali convertiti la ortodoxie care sa vina la noi, se duc in general la rusi si la greci.

Oameni buni, lamuriti-ma si pe mine, care este statutul acelei biserici? Face parte din BOR?, i se supune? Clericii de acolo de cine sunt numiti?

Ca altminteri stim cu totii cat de fragmentat este peisajul religios american, unde zi de zi se nasc culte si cultulete, se contopesc sau se scindeaza dupa bunul plac al unora. Daca acel lacas raspunde in fata BOR, probabil ca cineva ar trebui sa reclame neregulile.

In alta ordine de idei, cred ca in societatea americana exista potential pentru aparitia unor culte ortodoxe separate de BOR, asta pentru a atrage enoriasi fosti baptisti, evanghelisti s.a.m.d., dupa principiul cererii si ofertei. Economie de piata, ce sa mai. Chiar daca nu-mi place sa generalizez, americanul chiar si cand e roman diasporean are obiceiul de a imprumuta si adapta la cultura americana chestii din afara, ca doar traieste in tara tuturor posibilitatilor.

ar fi bine sa se evite aprecierile generalizante, mai ales atunci cand nu se stie cu ce se mananca realitatile romanilor care traiesc pe pamant american.

ref. la statutul Bisericii Ortodoxe "Sf. Treime" din Los Angeles, mai multe puteti afla de pe site-ul lor: http://sfantatreime.org/

Biserica apartine de ROEA (Romanian Orthodox Episcopate of America) -- acesta este site-ul oficial: http://www.roea.org/

Pe Wikipedia si pe site-ul Arhiepiscopiei Ortodoxe Romane din cele doua Americi nu apare nici o mentiune a Episcopiei Ortodoxe Romane din America.

Insa am gasit acest articol interesant, in care se explica negru pe alb de ce Episcopia Ortodoxa Romana nu apartine de BOR, Arhiepiscopia Ortodoxa Romana din cele doua Americi fiind corpul oficial al BOR in Statele Unite.

Asa ca, dragii mei, mi se pare normal sa gasiti erezii in doctrina lor, din moment ce ei nu mai raspund in fata BOR.