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Din fericire stim ce au folosit pentru ca ne spun chiar Evanghelistii: paine.
Marcu 14:12, Luca 22:7, Matei 26:17.

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Stim ca asa era si Traditia chiar si de la catolici, acestia folosind doar paine (sau prescuri) la Roma pana in preajma schismei.
Exact inversul este adevărat. Răsăritenii au folosit, la început, pâine nedospită. Aceea dospită era folosită uneori. Sfinții Părinți au crezut mereu că Domnul Isus a folosit pânie nedospită (azimi) și nici măcar unul nu afirmă contrariul, după cum nici măcar unul nu afirmă erezia cerulariană că Duhul Sfânt purcede numai de la Tatăl.

Iată ce spune Sf Grigore Teologul, patriarh al Constantinopolelui, doctor și învățător al Bisericii: there is none to hinder us from keeping a Feast to the Lord our God--the Feast of our Departure; or from celebrating that Feast, not in the old leaven of malice and wickedness, but in the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth, carrying with us nothing of ungodly and Egyptian leaven. (Omilia 1:3 în PG 35:397A)

Iată ce spune Sf Ioan Chrisostomul, patriarh al Constantinopolului, doctor și învățător al Bisericii: And why did they lead Him away there where they were all assembled? That they might do all things with consent of the chief priests. For he was then high priest, and all were waiting for Christ there, to such a degree did they spend the whole night, and give up their sleep for this object. For neither did they then eat the Passover, but watched for this other purpose. For John, when he had said that "it was early," added, "they entered into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled, but that they might eat the passover" [John 18:28]. What must we say then? That they ate it on another day, and broke the law, on account of their eager desire about this murder. For Christ would not have transgressed as to the time of the Passover, but they who were daring all things, and trampling under foot a thousand laws. For since they were exceedingly boiling with rage, and having often attempted to seize Him, had not been able; having then taken Him unexpectedly, they chose even to pass by the passover, for the sake of satiating their murderous lust. Sursa aici

Iată ce spune și Sf Leon cel Mare, Papă al Romei:
This it is that rescues from the power of darkness and transfers us into the Kingdom of the Son of God. This it is that by newness of life exalts the desires of the mind and quenches the lusts of the flesh. This it is whereby the Lord's Passover is duly kept "with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth" by the casting away of the old leaven of wickedness [1 Corinthians 5:8] and the inebriating and feeding of the new creature with the very Lord. For naught else is brought about by the partaking of the Body and Blood of Christ than that we pass into that which we then take , and both in spirit and in body carry everywhere Him, in and with Whom we were dead, buried, and rose again, as the Apostle says, For you are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. For when Christ, your life, shall appear, then shall you also appear with Him in glory [Colossians 3:3-4].

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